Why is it that most of the brilliant philosophers are Germans if the history tells us that philosophy came from Greece?

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Posted in categories: Ancient Greek, History

Why are the best tomato-based pasta sauces Italian, if history tells us that tomatoes came from the Americas?

2500 years is a long time; and in at least some ways, what the Germans were doing with philosophy in the 18th and 19th century was far from what the Greeks did in the 5th century BC (though unlike other disciplines, maybe not far enough!) At any rate, just because a people invent a field of endeavour, does not mean they get to dominate it forevermore. Cultural artefacts aren’t genetic.

What is the most difficult non-English tongue twister you know?

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Posted in categories: Linguistics, Modern Greek

A couple from Modern Greek:

  • Μια πάπια μα ποια πάπια. mja papja ma pja papja. “A duck, but which duck?” Surprisingly difficult.
  • Άσπρη πέτρα ξέξασπρη κι απ’ τον ήλιο ξεξασπρότερη. aspri petra kseksaspri c ap ton iʎo kseksasproteri. “White stone, utterly white, even more utterly white than the sun.”
  • Ο παπάς ο παχύς έφαγε παχιά φακή. Γιατί παπά παχύ έφαγες παχιά φακή; o papas o paçis efaʝe paça faci. ʝati papa paçi efaʝes paça faci? “The fat priest ate thick lentil soup. Why, fat priest, did you eat thick lentil soup?”

What is language?

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Posted in categories: General Language, Linguistics

Originally Answered:

Hah. Having lectured Intro To Linguistics, I should be able to come up with a definition without going to Wikipedia.

Ok: a language is a system of signs that are associated with meaning, and which can be combined to express more complex meanings.

That doesn’t limit language to spoken languages, hearing languages, or human languages; it also lets in maths, logic, and computer languages. Which I think is fair. It does however insist on compositionality: signs in isolation don’t make a language. And it insists on them being a system: a wonderfully powerful yet vague term…

Is the Modern Greek letter beta (Ββ) pronounced “b” or “v”?

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Posted in categories: Linguistics, Modern Greek

To make explicit what others are hinting at: it is pronounced /v/, but is often transliterated as /b/ for consistency with ancient Greek. You won’t see it with modern names, but you may see it library catalogues, for example, which often use the same transliteration for ancient and modern Greek.

And if a name is ancient, or entered English via classicists, or someone is being pretentious, b will be used. So for example Basil, Rhangabe, Bryennius.

What are languages you can understand even though you never learned them?

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Posted in categories: Linguistics, Other Languages

I have high school French, self taught Latin, and Esperanto. I’ve never studied Italian, but between working in an Italian languages department, exposure to classical music, and some guesswork, I’ve actually had basic Italian conversations while in Italy.

What is the etymology of the word “egotism”?

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Posted in categories: English, Linguistics

ego + ism is just about the complete story, but not quite.

ego + ism = egoism. In fact, when French coined the word in 1755 (Online Etymology Dictionary ), they coined it as égoisme; and when Greek took the word in from French, they kept it as εγωισμός.

But someone somewhere early on found that ego-ism sounded weird. With good reason: Latin nouns ending in –o would not be stuck next to an –ism normally—a bunch of inflectional and derivational affixes would intervene (natio > natio-n-al-ism). Ego is a pronoun, not a noun, so those kinds of affixes were just not available.

So, because ego-ism looks strange, someone decided to stick in a consonant to break up the ego– and the –ism. The consonant here happened to be a –t-; WordReference.com Dictionary of English  (which I believe is OED material) thinks it was by analogy with despot-ism.

There is a recherché distinction that some people have made between egotism and egoism in English: egotism is a bad thing, egoism isn’t. But that distinction is pretty much made up, and noone really bothers with it any more.

Where is the heart of the Balkans?

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Posted in categories: Culture, Modern Greek

From linguistic criteria (having the most features of the Balkan sprachbund ), FWIW, it’s the Bulgaro-Macedonian language continuum, with Albanian a close second, then Romanian/Aromanian, Greek halfway in, and Serbian, Romany and Turkish peripheral. Dunno about Ladino.

Dimitra as a northerner would be more enthusiastic about the Balkan affiliation of Greece than me as a southerner. (I see the Britannica map feels the same way.) There is clear cultural traffic between Greece and other Balkan countries, and (not coincidentally) there is a cultural divide between the Greek mainland and Greek islands. But for “heart of” as in “most stereotypical” or “typical”, I think you look north of Greece.

EDIT: Btw, I’ll counter Dimitra’s Fustanella (mainland Greece) with a vraka (islander Greece):

 

What are the different fingers called in other languages and cultures?

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Posted in categories: Linguistics, Modern Greek

Modern Greek:

thumb: μεγάλο δάχτυλο “big finger” (vernacular)

thumb: αντίχειρας “opposite to the hand” (formal)

index finger: δείκτης “pointer” (i.e. index) (formal)

middle finger: μέσος “middle”

ring finger: παράμεσος “next-to-middle”

little finger: μικρό δάχτυλο “little  finger” (vernacular)

little finger: ωτίτης “ear finger” (i.e. use to scratch the ear) (formal)

If you go online, you’ll see that at least one person on Twitter has called the middle finger “Varoufakis”…

Is djent an irregular verb?

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Posted in categories: English, Linguistics

Djent (which I hadn’t heard of coz I don’t get out much…

… oh hang on, it’s the onomatopoeia! Djent djent djent. OK, carry on…

) could be a verb, sure. It’s English, we do that. We had a DJ here (the famous Molly Meldrum ) get in legal trouble 30 years ago, because he said to someone “if you want to funk, funk outside”, and someone misheard him.

But making it an *irregular* verb is just being perverse. Irregular verbs are irregular for historical reasons, and analogy. If you make a new verb, there will be little linguistic motivation to make it irregular; people will just assume it is regular.

Geeks used to make the plural of VAX vaxen in the 70s. But they were smartass geeks, making a point. Are metalheads smartass geeks?

How do you say swear words in Greek?

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Posted in categories: Linguistics, Modern Greek

With gusto?

*Look at his stats*

*Finds that his most popular answer ever is  Nick Nicholas’ answer to What does the Greek word “malaka” mean?*

*Breathes in*

Let’s go with Lenny Bruce’s 9 dirty words, the predecessor to George Carlin’s Seven dirty words .

  • ass
    • κώλος. Cognate with colon. Is used for both arse and arsehole. 
  • balls
    • αρχίδια. From Ancient Greek ὄρχις, and thus cognate with orchid (which someone thought looked like testicles). The only body part used to characterised someone as disagreeable.
  • cocksucker
    • Is not invective in Greek. But cock is a dirty word: πούτσος. Etymology uncertain: Turkish puç and Italian puzzo have been suggested.
  • cunt
    • μουνί. Etymology uncertain; maybe Venetian monna, maybe an Ancient word for fluff.
  • fuck
    • γαμώ.  The verb meant “marry” in Ancient Greek. It doesn’t now. The verb that means “marry” now is παντρεύομαι, which means “go under a man”. Men do it as well though; noone realises the etymology. As indeed they shouldn’t.
  • motherfucker
    • Not a taboo that gets used in invective in Greek; the closest I’ve ever seen is σκυλοπηδημένη, “screwed by a dog”.
  • piss
    • κατουρώ (verb), κάτουρα (noun). From the Ancient οὖρον “urine” (cognate); it just means “pissing down”.
  • shit
    • σκατά (noun), χέζω (verb); both with impeccable Ancient pedigree.  σκατά is old enough that its original singular is σκώρ, following the old wetar-wetenas paradigm like ὕδωρ-ὕδατος
  • tits
    • βυζιά. Late Greek, possibly cognate with bosom.

I could expand into the niceties of collocation, blasphemy, and cultural taboos, but that should be enough for now.

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